Morgan on High: Billboard reminds public of a killing
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The prominent billboard on High Street urges tips in Morgan Harrington’s killing and reminds passersby of the still available reward.PHOTO BY COURTENEY STUART
Her striking face now looks out from a billboard on High Street with the plea: “Help us solve Morgan’s murder.”
Nearly eight months after the 20-year-old Virginia Tech student disappeared after attending a Metallica show at John Paul Jones Arena and more than four months after her remains were discovered on a remote farm in southern Albemarle County, the billboard— put up June 1— is a reminder that whoever killed Morgan Harrington is still at large in a case that some are beginning to fear may never be solved, despite a still-available $150,000 reward.
“We’re all hoping for some kind of break,” said Morgan’s mother, Gil Harrington, on May 17, the seven month anniversary of Morgan’s disappearance and two weeks before the billboard was erected.
Seeking a way to elevate the visibility of the case and perhaps prompt a tip that could help bring Morgan’s killer to justice, the Harringtons contacted Lamar advertising, the company that owns the billboards— only to learn all spots were sold out.
When the Charlottesville Newsplex heard the Harringtons were seeking billboard space, “it didn’t take two seconds” to decide to donate the space normally reserved for smiling newsanchors at television stations WCAV, WVAW, WAHU, according to General Manager Brad Ramsey, who says the company pays about $1,000 per month for the prominently-placed billboard.
State Police spokesperson Corinne Geller says the lack of new information made public in the case is not necessarily bad news.
“At first we were forthcoming,” she says. “Now we have a criminal investigation, and there’s certain information we have to evaluate so we don’t jeopardize the eventual prosecution. We’re still very hopeful, and we’ve certainly not given up.”
As for the billboard, it will remain up through the end of June, says Ramsey, in hopes of sparking new information to solve the case.
“It just seemed like the right thing to do,” says Ramsey. “I don’t think there’s a single person in this community who doesn’t want to find the person responsible for Morgan’s death, other than the person who did it.”
–original headline: Morgan on High: Billboard reminds public of a killer
The Harringtons deserve answerers. It is a criminal investigation, but if you know anything such as MDMA [Ecstasy]or other drugs being giving to Morgan please call the police. Perhaps someone knows of circumstances that ordinarily would not contribute to death but are afraid to come forward. Anything may help to find the truth. This will not be a witch hunt. Please even the smallest bit may help. If you are afraid and feel bad, get it off your chest. Please do what is right.
Dont forget that this is a real reward. If you know anything, you can help this family and help yourself by reporting anything that will get this solved.
help Find Morgan’s Killer ! If you have heard anything about this case from others talking ..please come forward !
If you have an idea of who was planning something , please come forward !
If you know who did this by a group of fellow friends you all hang around , come forward now BECAUSE YOUR LIFE MAY BE IN DANGER ! A killer one time will kill again , especially one who caused such damage to her bones , they were shattered. That is Rage & YOU COULD BE NEXT !
Highest praise to the Charlottesville Newsplex
Have you seen these whit pills, tabs? Maybe your teenage child, your friends or siblings. Have you heard them mention unicorns ? Are they common in your area? Maybe you had never understood, maybe this will bring something to your mind. Please look at the photo. Did you see any for sell at JPJA or on any campus ? Any parties or clubs where these were passed around?
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?ID=1583
Maybe you had no idea of interactions. Did you know that they are highly sought after and could be used to lure young women to go party ?
Agree with Big Dog!
Agree with Big Dog. Praise to newslex & The Hook.
From Geller: “At first we were forthcoming,” she says.”
Really??? when?? with what??
If LE is busy putting a case together for prosecution,
then why the need for a billboard asking for help solving the case?
And why does LE constantly say they have no persons of interest if they are working a case for prosecution?
Fess up LE, you have nothing. Just come out with what you have so the public can help find the killer(s)
To S. Jones:
We will never know about that substance.
Traces of it might have been found in Morgan’s car
but since LE failed to do forensic testing on the car…
LE not telling the public back on Nov 11th about Morgan’s shirt being found… is by far the biggest blunder in this case, not the only one, but certainly one of the biggest.
LE is not inept. They just care more about politics than solving this crime and getting a killer off the streets. the next girl’s blood will be on the hands of LE when this killer strikes again.
Déjà vu Aruba.
We can only hope the killer’s next victim will abduct off campus next time. Then the killer might actually be found.
I’d say arff, arff, check out all the people who are weirdly obsessed with this case. One of them knows more than he’s saying. The rest of them know far less than they are saying.
What we do know is Morgan wrote about giving up her last unicorn to a guy, so that she could avoid and awkward moment a year or more before the incident. What better way to get her to abandon a Metallica concert, Ecstasy needs no music with heavy lyrics. We know she left. Any one may surmise she had a propensity to acquire such a drug. Also in the earlier contact with reference to he last Unicorn she writes that she left her upper garment. Does this not warrant a look ? Hair obtained from her hair brush would yield MDMA before the night of Metallica in her system. I agree that if drugs ingested the 24 hour prior would not be found in hair. But, pathology can tell what chemicals may have not be metabolized, if they pulled tissue from deep within the rib cage. I want to know the truth, no matter what it tells us. Does the family think that law Enforcement will arrest them if they tell us what they know? Why not put law enforcement on notice? The family wants us to stay involved. Break the silence, tell us what you know. I also want to know the name of the official that told the them Morgan was dressed provocatively. She said it on National television, but she did not give the name. Why, why will the family not go public. Do they want to wait 5 years?
Come on Doc, step it up!
what is this talk of a unicorn? where are you getting that from?
it really doesnt matter if Morgan took any type drug prior to the night of the concert. what matters is that someone murdered her.
I do agree with you though about the person in LE judging how she was dressed.
I doubt whomever she got the MDMA from, if she took it, knows who killed her.
It is possible that the interaction itself killed her. This would lead to a criminal investigation, thus homicide. Not a murder investigation. Thus the reason that the facts need to be cleared up. If someone knows of something like the person who placed the t-shirt now thinks they will be charged with murder, that is nothing but a deterrent to coming forward. Like wise, if someone knew Morgan had a fondness of Ecstasy and came forward would the public equate that with murder? Homicide can be an accident. The Harringtons use the word over and over again. Just repeating the word does not make it fact. If the police have a determined COD that confirms murder then let them print it. People that have strong opinions still question hitchhiking, but they blindly worship the police, this makes no sense. You pick and choose then when someone else questions other statements you choose to use the very source you discredited earlier. If the police told the Harringtons that Morgan was murdered then let them say it! All the billboards in the world will not help until people know that she was murdered. There are many, maybe even the majority that think no murder was committed, thus no public safety address. Why do the Harringtons ask the public to help if they will not help themselves. I know the man gets money from the institution, surely he is not in fear of repercussions. Why does he allow for only feel good post on his forum and turns away the very people that can help? Put up 100 billboards, but if you want to find the truth, you tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, then you will have many to keep this investigation alive. Till then, you deserve nothing more than pats on the back and pity!
Incoherent jibberish …
S. Jones:
Geller already said Morgan’s death was a homicide
and they have ruled out an accidental death.
I dont trust LE, but i highly doubt they would imply there is a murderer out on the streets if this was some overdose/drug related death.
you did not answer my question about where you got the infomation about the unicorn.
Homicide is not murder, can be. Are all red trucks fire trucks?
If it is murder why not say it. Hugely was arrested for murder. They know what the word means. Look it up! Where do they say “murder investigation”? If it is so simple, why don’t they just say it? Why?
Read the article and words, criminal investigation does not mean murder, could. Ask yourself why? Ask why there is no public safety statement. Any murder weapon found? Any suspects? Google Morgan and unicorn. Google murder vs homicide. Look up Virgina Law. Call he ask her if it is a murder investigation, just do it, I did.
You can repeat the word a hundred times, but it is not described by the police as murder. That is a fact, not a grieving person’s words, just fact!
What’s your point, SJones? I mean, it’s great that you have an implausible theory and indignantly demand that people release information based on your whims, but what’s your point apart from looking foolish?
Point is billboard does not say murder. Police do not say murder. The truth is the point! Find the truth, even if it is mot murder.
Except the billboard clearly says murder.
Jake you are right.
follow the obsession
S. Jones
i glanced at google, most of the links are broken
or the content is too random to make sense.
because you do not want to sight the origin of your comment
i must now file you under: crazy.
you want to imply that Morgan died from a drug overdose.
yet her bones were found “shattered”
i know of no drug that does THAT.
if LE could find that Morgan died a drug related death,
they would be the first to shout that out and Geller would not have gone on record as saying an accidental death has been ruled out.
btw- it’s obvious you are DAKOTA
i dont have a problem with you
but i dont have time to dance to your theories
when you talk in circles.
Maybe we’ll even find out the answer as to who was on the “grassy knoll” down Dallas way.
On a serious note, nothing drives people crazier than utter ambiguity. After all, ambiguity about who we are, where we came from, and worse yet where we might be going, was why we had to invent the absurdity of religion.
But a case like this maddens people who just urgently WANT and NEED to know whatever happened on that night. Another aspect of a case like this that unhinges people is victim complicity (leaving a group event under the influence and attempting to hitch-hike). Most likely this case won’t be solved unless the perp (if there is a perp) gets caught red handed in another crime (as in the John Gardner case in San Diego recently) and gives up the story in a needle avoiding plea deal. The location of the remains deviates from the serial killer pattern (they dump victims expediently close to roads) and suggests an unknown but alternate scenario which would involve the victim arriving at her resting place under her own power, maybe under compulsion and in the company of someone else, maybe alone and in other unknown circumstances. Maybe it wasn’t a homicide at all.
Who NEEDS to know more information? A lot of armchair internet sleuths seem to think that they need to know information, but those people need to get lives instead.
I don’t think ecstasy would have shattered Morgan’s bones. I think the billboard is brilliant. Someone in the area knows something. That is certainly a generous reward being offered. Please phone in ANYTHING you may know re Morgan’s abduction/murder. I would think the perp has made some comment that has left a friend or family member wondering
Interesting Angel Eyes
what is your theory as to why LE would call her death a homicide if it might not be?
Trisha N, way to go hon. I read this site all the time and have always suspected this Jones guy and dakota were one in the same. I think the unicorn thing came from someone who saw her myspace or facebook where Morgan mentions giving up unicorns to someone so she wouldn;t have to make smalltalk with them. Geller and Morgan’s parents have always alluded to the fact that Morgan’s death involved something violent and physical.
Take your shots at me, I am use to it! I am not Dakota and the police the Doctor and Gil know that as fact. Dakota is strongly opinionated man with every right to speak to these subjects. He will speak for himself.
I screwed up on the billboard about what it said, I admit it. Thanks Jake. The discussions that were printed in February about Murder vs homicide were very good. But what has changed is 4 months. Earlier one could side that law enforcement did not know results. It has now been 18 weeks and no COD has been released. Preliminary results allow for profiles that must be verified by investigations, but for the family to say murder and the State not to is strange. I respect Courteney and that is the most powerful reason for me to believe her clear and absolute statements about murder. To me that weighs heavily, but is not a official statement from the police. She has dealt with many legalities and knows far more than I do. It would seem simple for her to ask Ms Geller point plank, is this a murder investigation. Are you classifying it as a murder officially? The answer maybe that they do not know what happened, I can understand that statements made could lead to holes in prosecution, but, science is science. I personal believe that it was a friend of a friend. That this person found an opportunity to get her in his company and his fantasies were found to be just that. I always believe that a girl friend, sister, cousin or even a Mother figure planted the t-shirt to issue a statement she was done with “him”. Now you ask what does this have to do with the billboard? Well if someone displayed the shirt prior to a death being confirmed then it was an innocent attempt to inflict emotion pain to the man. Would this person come forward with the word murder and threats pushing her to fear for her own life?
The word “Murder” brings out primal fears, “RedRum”. What is needed in my opinion is a way some one to call the FBI and give them the facts. The billboard only enforces that people that may help should keep quiet.
So take your shots at me. I am not Dakota, blame me!
Why have the police not tested the Pantera shirt found on the bushes for DNA? Somebody (the killer) must have removed the shirt from her body. So why do we never hear anything about the DNA found in her shirt or body?
As far as the bones being crushed…has anybody ever considered that she may have been runned over by a car? That would definitely crush bones.
Nope, not one single person had considered either of those things! Thanks a lot citizen! You helped make America safer today.
To Pippi:
She knows the club that I belong to. We do not want anymore members! I hope that she continues to be not a member but fights for us! I do not care if someone questions my motives, but I do care if she does! All members of this club just want the truth! We hope that newest members do not look back years later and ask, could we have done more? 10 years, 20 years, 30 years of not finding the truth? This maybe seem secretive and clouded with mystery, but not to her or the other members. This club is overflowing flowing. The dues are more costly than anyone can understand.Please learn!
Pippi can speak in ways that we can not. Motivation vs obsession, well I am not going to stop, never!
The billboard! The reward?
Clarity is needed. If the posted award is for information leading to an arrest and convivtion of a murderer, does this mean that that the Harringtons do not want information that does not fit into their preordained conclusion? What this case needs is a clear objective! Are others in danger? Should Mr.s not already have been offered the money?
Clarity is needed! Oh, Virgina Law this and that but what about you the family. Are you bound ny all of the legalize? Do you want the truth, really? Yea, I am harsh ! Do you want little yes men that culy up next to you and tell you what you want hear? Or it is possible that you may want to find the truth no matter waht it is? I agree that it seems that someone did a horrible thing to Morgan!
The truth is what should look for. No preconceved notions, not emotional opinions, no spirtual guidance. Science! There may very well be some one that van help you to the truth, they MAY REALLY BE HURTING AS MUCH AS YOU ARE.
This time only, the Hook web page cut me off! I am sure it was a update of software. So, sorry for the grammer and the un asked for caps.
SJones..what’s got you on this Ecstasy kick?
I can’t tell whether S Jones has nothing to say, or is simply unable to write. So many words, so little meaning.
Morgan Harrington did not die of a drug overdose. Unicorn is often in reference to a cigarette.
He had a late one last night. Probably still recovering.
I’ve never heard of a cig being referenced as a unicorn.
S jones, not sure what you’re getting at. I think the parents want any information on their daughter…no matter what it is.
So the Newsplex was one of the media outlets in town that was very careful NOT to cover evidence in the Harrington case - even when it was still a missing person’s investigation - if those details dared to suggest that UVA students may have been involved with her that night.
(and the UVA and greater Charlottesville community applauded quietly)
Now the Newsplex gives the Harrington’s some free billboard space - but only now that the rooms on the West range of the lawn are empty, and the UVA student body has left town - many of them forever.
(and the community applauds loudly)
Local media played very nice with Mr. Casteen, and in doing so just might have let the perp(s) get outta here scot free. At least we don’t hear the “no way is there anyone at UVA who could murder a young woman” crap anymore. That sort of fell by the wayside a few weeks ago. But they are still “slaying fallout” in that case just as aggressively.
This was never first and foremost about finding a young woman in danger and/or finding her muderer(s). It was about protecting the image of “the university” first and foremost, and delaying/doubting/suppressing any information that might have even potentially tarnished same. (Morgan hanging out with the basketball team. The lawn sighting. The finding of the Pantera shirt in the heart of frat/sorority territory. The cops suggesting there had been frat parties at Anchorage Farm..) Then, after those things were hushed up, it was about getting info out to the public about evidence in hopes that leads could multiply and the case get solved.
I for one hope that Mr. Huguley’s DNA has been tested and compared to any that may have been found on her shirt that was found just a few blocks from his frat house and his residence. Maybe his frat was one of the ones that partied at the farm where her body was found. But nobody in this town wants to know who those frats were, or who was there. Nobody wants to know the frat where Ms. Love was first attacked either. That “crosses the line” into maybe finding out something that UVA and Charlottesville does NOT want to know. The Casteen Cloaking Device is still very much at work.
Don’t ask. Don’t tell.
Morgan hanging out with the basketball team.
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Yeah, “hanging out” if by that you mean drunkenly talking to them. She was sighted “hanging out” with various people in the parking lot then.
The troll doesn’t seem nearly as interested in the lack of media coverage of the reported sighting at the Sheetz in Orange. Of course, the troll thinks that media outlets should only cover unsubstantiated sightings in a missing persons case in great detail if they involve U.Va.
i believe this is why LE has been absolute garbage … for this very reason:
if there is evidence that Morgan was abducted from the JPJA grounds and/or UVA grounds and the security cameras / systems were not functioning properly and/or it is proven that footage is lost and/or erased, would this not be grounds for a civil suit?
Not only that just the fact of locking out, at night, a 20 year-old female from an event sponsored by the University, an event she paid to attend, may well be grounds for at least a civil suit. The argument that ‘other venues do it’ is worth exactly zip as a defense.
it is almost like they are working to keep Morgan as far away from JPJA and UVA territory 1st and foremost. anything after that is secondary. the potential for a $200 million civil suit is the elephant in the room and somehow, we missed it.
i think people really need to know … it is highly probable that delays in this case from the beginning are a part of a bigger picture. from the beginning, every bit of information released by LE (which has been very little and very uninformative) have painted a picture of a concert-goer who was waiting for a concert for 6 months, actually attends said concert with friends, leaves a concert she went to with “friends” minutes before the main act takes stage. from what we know, LE and JPJA say she left the arena of her own accord…she goes outside the arena and is not let back into the arena. but she was not kicked out / ejected from the arena. there are no witnesses per LE, there is no video footage / security footage per LE and/or JPJA, LE and JPJA (UVA) have shared absolutely no information whatsoever regarding this case with the community, but they have continued to ask the community to come forward for support. LE wants the community to believe Morgan left the concert of her own accord, called the friends once to let them know she is outside and will find her way home, and then “wander” AWAY from the arena and her friends and the concert to HITCHHIKE AWAY from the arena, campus, her friends, her car, her purse in the opposite direction from her predetermined destination that was planned for 6 months. The LE / VSP / university police official stance seems to be: “we know absolutely nothing about this case … we don’t have evidence, we don’t have credible witnesses, we don’t really have a defined time line, we don’t know who she was with outside the arena, but what we DO know is that whatever happened (again we have no idea what happened), but whatever did happen to Morgan DEFINITELY HAPPENED OFF JPJA / UVA GROUNDS”.
“Not only that just the fact of locking out, at night, a 20 year-old female from an event sponsored by the University, an event she paid to attend, may well be grounds for at least a civil suit. The argument that ‘other venues do it’ is worth exactly zip as a defense.”
Almost ALL concerts and events do not allow re-admittance. It is usually in the small print on the back of the ticket (ever read it?) if not on the front. This is mainly due to reasons of liability and potential revenue loss (from concessions).
Does it matter if the event was sponsored by the university? So, if a 35 year old male attended a sponsored event and left, was denied re-admittance, and vanished, would the university be somewhat liable in your eyes?
“I for one hope that Mr. Huguley’s DNA has been tested and compared to any that may have been found on her shirt that was found just a few blocks from his frat house and his residence. Maybe his frat was one of the ones that partied at the farm where her body was found. But nobody in this town wants to know who those frats were, or who was there. ”
No frats partied at that farm. If Hugely was a DKE, which I think is what frat he was in (if he was in one), then the shirt was found about a half a mile from the DKe house.
Keep up the good work Sean…people visiting here who don’t know who you are and the delusional paranoid garbage you repeat might actually think there is something to it. Hell, I did for a day or two before I looked into what you were saying.
JJ Malloy … just because your illegitimate state of Virginia do concerts and events not allow re-admittance. this is so your murderers can attack those that can’t get back in … in other states we have these amazing things called “stamps” and/or “wristbands” and other wonderful improvements in technology that allow for citizens to enter and to exit and to re-enter the show (we also have driver’s licenses confirming our identities which co-inside with the ticket).
regardless … you obviously didn’t read what is being said… in response to this:
“Does it matter if the event was sponsored by the university? So, if a 35 year old male attended a sponsored event and left, was denied re-admittance, and vanished, would the university be somewhat liable in your eyes?”
the university would be liable in the above situation if the 35 year old male who attended was still on the grounds at the time of his disappearance / abduction and the sponsor / location did not provide adequate security to prevent the crime. the $191 million dollar security system / surveillance system would be able to clear the institution / sponsor of the event of any negligence due to security and/or lack there of … but, oh wait, there is no security footage. thank you for proving my point. did you know that Virginia lost the civil war? Thank You, God.
Osama
Yes, some events you can re-enter. In fact, I went to one just last week…in the state of VA, imagine that! Most concerts, sports events, and other events as big as a Metallica concert or others at JPJ arena don’t allow re-entry. Why? Because then people who go back to their cars, drink more, smoke pot, whatever, and come back when they got their buzz back up to par. Or, if they were hungry, instead of paying 6$ for a hot dog they go to their car to eat some food they left there.
There is also the issue of security. They have ample security making sure nothing dangerous is brought in the stadium, such as weapons or contraband. If they allowed re-entry, they would have to have more personnel at the ticket entries to search the people coming and going.
I’m not gonna speculate on a civil case.
IMO it’s more likely that the UVa police were not able to come up with anything useful to solve the case then it is they erased all the tape and discarded all the evidence in order to avoid a suit. A cover up would be FAR more damaging to the university and the city than any negligent surveillance system. It would also be extremely hard to pull of with the FBI, state police, and others involved.
“but, oh wait, there is no security footage. thank you for proving my point. did you know that Virginia lost the civil war?”
If you got to see the footage would you be satisfied?
Can’t find the right story to post this with, but for all of you that wanted Hugeley’s warrants unsealed…got your wish…sorta…
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/article/warrants_unsealed_in_slaying_of_uva_student/57045/
1.Some of you can’t type
2.Some of you can’t write
3.Some of you can’t think logically
4.Some of you can’t do any of the above, which makes it impossible to understand what you’re trying to say. No offense intended.
You might want dictate what you want to say to someone and then let them type it out for you. :)
No one likes to bring up the tragedy at Virgina Tech, but what the heck I am not the only one here asking tough questions. After the massacre wouldn’t UVA have upgrade surveillance. With the 911 attacks is it so hard to think that a gathering of 10,000 or people representing the Western Worlds evils be a target?
We all seem to use the word tape. Digital tapes are back-ups. They have been in use for decades to keep Employment and tax records as well as surveillance. It is a requirement by insurance companies to keep back-ups off site for many scenarios.
Plenty here are very good at research, perhaps the bids at the time were reviewed for the surveillance system should be looked at. Find the company that was awarded the bid, see if they are re-newed. Look at the company’s web sites and make your own mind up. Cover up is one of those words like murder, I do not think there was a all encompassing cover-up. Just one or 2 parties may have had a vested interest in keep any surveillance out of the public eye. I will say that that unfortunate footage of the other young lady seeming to be Morgan led to much speculation. When it was discovered it was not her, perhaps there were policies put in place to protect innocent people. I do not have the answers, but it is not for us to decide if UVA, contractors or sub-contractor are monetarily responsible. That is for the court. But, I sure doubt that a civil case wouldn’t be heard. In a civil case the parties have a right to depose and require documentation. It is really simple, you can sue McDonald’s for too hot coffee. I believe the FBI can, and has retrieved information. Maybe not. Still does not answer if she was seen on an image. It is hard to believe that ticket windows and entrances would not reveal an image. Taping of a show while Metallica is playing seems to be written in their Ryder. I think they would not allow it, but they do this all over the world and they certainly seem to be the most honestly open in this case. I am sure that they would do anything to help. Questions needs answers. Take all of the shots at me.
Just read it, then wait a day and read it again. I do not need to be right, I just want the truth not a rush to judgment, because a whole family has lost their lives and it I hope that another Innocent family does not get taken down with the mob brutality. There is a reason why family members do not sit on juries. Do I think someone is responsible for her death, yes. But I do not know!
To I think someone who is was not involved in criminal activity has some answers yes. I do not know. Will the billboard help, I hope so, just do not want to see it drive information away.
Trust me, I have done research from day 6. I have seen reports from so many sources I have had to get a extra hard drive. There is so much information early on that I believe carries more weight than the recent discussions. Reporters [I am not speaking of The HOOK reproters]are sometimes just like the public. The spokesperson says homicide, she hears murder. She prints it, then people take it as fact. It is not just that, it is the easiest and most important factor. Look at was it a text message, who called who. Purse in garbage can, hitchhiking [maybe she was attacked at exact point where the purse was found and fled to the bridge waving]. There are so many variables. But I have lost someone and I have seen the toll it takes for decades. Now is the time to ask for anything and everything, no matter if it fits your or my theory, it is only going to get worse the longer it goes. I do not want the Doctor looking back saying if I had been more open to information in the first year maybe, just maybe……
Oh, so the warrants were sealed upon request of the Commonwealth’s Attorney so as to not prejudice potential jurors, as people have repeatedly said.
The troll was wrong yet again.
I’ve always figured this whole thing was about drugs, and I haven’t seen anything yet to convince me to change my opinion. But wow, the idea that Jack the Ripper is prowling around Cville? Yeah, that is sensational, I get that, and I get that it makes this whole thing on a whole new level, you know, instead of, say, just a bunch of bad decisions and running into the wrong people looking for a hookup. Even if none of us will ever know the whole story, at least we can all agree that underage drinking and hitch hiking while drunk or stoned are bad ideas.
Agreed, a lot of mistakes. There is definitely room for improvement on many levels.
“I will say that that unfortunate footage of the other young lady seeming to be Morgan led to much speculation. When it was discovered it was not her, perhaps there were policies put in place to protect innocent people.”
Sorry, I must have missed this. What are you referring to?
Sean writes: “The finding of the Pantera shirt in the heart of frat/sorority territory.”
FALSE.
“The cops suggesting there had been frat parties at Anchorage Farm..”
FALSE
” … her shirt that was found just a few blocks from his [Huguley’s] frat house”
FALSE.
“Maybe his frat was one of the ones that partied at the farm where her body was found.”
FALSE
Is it possible that Metallica could have anything to do with her death?
S Jones, those are not “tough questions” they are impossible to understand questions. What a self contradictory mess of words!
You rate a solid 4 on nbc29fan’s scale-
“1.Some of you can’t type
2.Some of you can’t write
3.Some of you can’t think logically
4.Some of you can’t do any of the above, which makes it impossible to understand what you’re trying to say. No offense intended.”
It must be incredibly painful to be a real investigator and have to put up with the seemingly endless parade of people making incoherent and inane “helpful” suggestions and clueless criticisms.
True story: In the days when the Stones hit Satisfaction was being played on the radio, there were many discussions:
“I can’t get no satisfaction,
I can’t get no girl with action.
‘Cause I try and I try and I try and I try.
I can’t get no, I can’t get no.”
Many compared them to the Beatles and some to Elvis. Was the line a sexual one, would this change the views, all relevant questions at the time. But there was one lady who questioned the double negative in the line.
This is the day of texting and small keyboards. These are comments and not a written article. The very same TV stations that mentioned in some comments have many spelling and grammar mistakes.
So, pick it apart. Slam me all you want. Maybe you should get your 6 year old niece to translate it for you.
Wait, so S Jones can actually think and write coherently when he or she so chooses? And why isn’t this done all of the time?
With regard to the drug theory — if she’d left the arena looking for drugs, she wouldn’t have been on video trying to get back in so many times.
I’m pretty sure the police already know who did it, have read a lot of the blogs since last year. From postings by people who were close to the case (many of their comments were later removed), combined with other info out there, the woman was picked up and victimized by at least one guy with a criminal record. Yes, his name has been out there, and there are probable accomplices. The circumstantial evidence reputedly strong, apparently there are witnesses to certain events, sightings, things like that. I think all the cops need now are a few more tips so they can justify what needs to be done. That’s why people need to call now with what they saw or know, even if you’re not sure it was her. Tell them what you saw, let them figure out whether it was her or not.
Anonymous tips would work. Maybe someone has information about a Virgina cop, would he call VSP? Ask Gas Bag about the area near the farm, maybe the billboard should have 3 numbers to call. Probably the FBI, crime stoppers or the line listed. But someone needs to answer the phone, a busy signal is better than a voice mail. If it is anonymous who wants to leave a name and call back number. It is easy, you give them [a live person the phone] the information, you tell them you are interested in the reward and once the person is in jail you will give the Family or Crime-stoppers a password. They give you one and you give them one. I mean did the Doctor not consult the VSP on this. Did they discuss what the billboard would say? You really think the FBI would have advise? They deal with ransoms and terrorist rats all of the time.
Could you imagine if you called a suicide hot line and then put you on hold, playing in the background is Blue Oyster Cult’s Don’t Fear the Reaper!
Clarity Doctor, please!
I thought standard suicide hotline procudure was to have “The End” by the Doors playing while you were on hold?
Better than Sarah McLachlan - In The Arms Of An Angel
I would check out !
Had anyone ever checked Morgan Dana Harrington’s criminal record?
Is a discussion of this case complete without looking in to this?
Reminder-
4.Some of you can’t do any of the above, which makes it impossible to understand what you’re trying to say.
Correct use of basic punctuation is a good starting point and a move in the right direction. See”
http://englishplus.com/grammar/punccont.htm
We can work on the rest step by step.
Good point and medical history, illnesses and medications. Grades and attendance, changes in behavior or spurts of depression? Boyfriends criminal records, insurance claims anything that speaks to her vulnerability and those that knew these weaknesses if any exists. Seems there was history of the battery being removed or falling out. Why not spend the money on a new cell phone not 4 tickets and parking. Many questions, many! If there is a trial; it will all come out. But maybe there is nothing, but criminal record should be a factor. The victim is not responsible for this but people knowing the information could have abused it. She is not on trial!
cookieJar June 9th, 2010 | 11:38 pm
Reminder-
4.Some of you can’t do any of the above
Should there be a spce after the “4.”?
Above? What is above the typed words?
“With regard to the drug theory — if she’d left the arena looking for drugs, she wouldn’t have been on video trying to get back in so many times.”
Yeah I figured she was going to hook up with her connection and head back to the concert and then realized she wasn’t allowed back in, but you know, that’s assuming a lot since as far as I know there isn’t any video or pictures or anything of her, or her friends even at the show. Who knows.
But it’s all the other signs around this case, you know the things that for most folks don’t add up. Her friends taking her car all the way home without her without saying anything, her parents not knowing even almost a week later that they drove Morgan’s car all the way to Cville, her parents not knowing that Morgan was still smoking, and that Morgan had overdrawn her bank account again. Even the little things, like Morgan’s junky cell phone that had a missing battery cover, and Morgan’s parents checking up with her so often to tell her what to wear and to make sure she was doing her homework.
This girl was 20 years old remember, her dad is a doctor and I figure her mother also makes good money too.
To me it just shows me she was desperate to feed the beast and who knows how desperate she was to feed it especially when away from her folks and had her friends covering for her.
But hey, if Jack the ripper is roaming in Cville, he needs to be put down for sure I agree. Peace.
Hmmm said: “Wait, so S Jones can actually think and write coherently when he or she so chooses? And why isn’t this done all of the time?”
Probably because he/she is posting under multiple user names, and it gets tricky after awhile trying to maintain the incoherancy of the “S Jones” character when one is in a different character’s frame of mind. Just my theory.
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nbc29 fan said: “Is it possible that Metallica could have anything to do with her death?”
oh my.
I suppose all things are possible. But whether it’s *likely*? No. Metallica’s been rocking since the 80s. And only now, in 2009, did something happen with a girl at one of their concerts? Says to me the issue isn’t with Metallica, but rather, with the girl and whoever took her.
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nbc29fan said:
“1.Some of you can’t type
2.Some of you can’t write
3.Some of you can’t think logically
4.Some of you can’t do any of the above, which makes it impossible to understand what you’re trying to say. No offense intended.
You might want dictate what you want to say to someone and then let them type it out for you. :) ”
I’m with you there. :D Very true.
In her defense, I think S Jones is doing quite an admirable job of staying consistently incoherent!
Admittedly I find some people’s obsession with this case and the way they dissect all the details and minutae to be a little disturbing.
“Admittedly I find some people’s obsession with this case and the way they dissect all the details and minutae to be a little disturbing.”
There are 150,000 reasons for a lot of people to be all over this case, if you believe in it anyway.
Believe in the case? I’ve never once heard or read any suggestion that Morgan Harrington’s disappearance was a hoax.
My guess is that the killer was at the concert, is a Metallica fan, prob around 38 to 42 yrs old, hunted in the area when was a kid so prob still has a hunting license or had one until he got a felony and probably for previous assault charge > Attended concert > hunting license > lives in Charlotteville. might want to look for someone who has a warrant out for his arrest as well, if it was an accident then he wouldnt have wanted to come forward
Regardless of what our opinions are, doesn’t this young womans family deserve answers and some form of closure? What if this was a member of your family? Somebody knows something, if this was an accident someone tried to cover up, suicide or murder, wouldn’t most agree answers to what happened, how and why would be beneficial to her family? Shouldn’t that be the focus here? As well as holding someone accountable for their actions if they did have something to do with this tragedy.
“S Jones June 7th, 2010 | 5:21 am
The billboard! The reward?
Clarity is needed. If the posted award is for information leading to an arrest and convivtion of a murderer, does this mean that that the Harringtons do not want information that does not fit into their preordained conclusion? What this case needs is a clear objective! Are others in danger? Should Mr.s not already have been offered the money?
Clarity is needed! Oh, Virgina Law this and that but what about you the family. Are you bound ny all of the legalize? Do you want the truth, really? Yea, I am harsh ! Do you want little yes men that culy up next to you and tell you what you want hear? Or it is possible that you may want to find the truth no matter waht it is? I agree that it seems that someone did a horrible thing to Morgan!”
^^ S. Jones,
i couldnt agree more, CLARITY is need- IN YOUR POSTS.
you have one poster after another telling you
your posts do not make sense. maybe you should take a look at that.
first you came in here implying Morgan died from drugs & that her parents are trying to cover it up.
now in your own words in this post- you say someone did something horrible to Morgan. so which is it? drugs or murder?
you might have some legit points- but it’s too hard to sort them out because you are not clear in what you’re saying.
you keep focusing on the words Murder vs Homicide.
LE does not use the word murder because they cant yet-
they dont have the motive/intent. which is one of the big things that seperate the usage of calling it Murder or homicide.
LE cant call it a murder (in this case) without knowing the intent/motive. so they call it a homicide for now.
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someone above said there is footage of Morgan trying to get back inside the venue multiple times. LE & Dr. Harrington say there is no such footage. I believe the press got that wrong some where along the line.
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Morgan was seen intoxicated inside the venue, so it wouldnt make sense she would leave to go get drugs. she already had her buzz on.
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the shirt was found down the street from Yeardly Love’s apt. I do not know where GH lived or if any frat houses were close by. I think it’s interesting the shirt was found so close to her apt and that a lacross player is the one to find Morgan’s purse.
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why do some of you say GH/frats did not party at the farm?
how do you know that? that place was party central
there were parties held there all the time. there are invites on Facebook to attend parties there and i didnt see any ‘no frats’ allowed added to the post.
SJones, My head hurts after trying to figure out what your point is to all your rants. You were a poster on Find Morgan at one time and supported the Harrington’s completely. What is up with all of this nonsense now? You know that they want to know the truth. Shame on you for posting like you have been about them, you know better.
Mallorie June 10th, 2010 | 10:44 pm
I can see what you are asking. I support Dan and Gil more than you know. It is very hard for them and they are trying so hard, on their site I was doing just fine. 2 of their moderators started a role playing game centered on confidentially information. I believed that Law Enforcement had the information and was working with it, I called and found out that they did not. I was not banned for using multiple names instead, I got 5 Personal Messages from a Moderator and after the 3 time told her to Fu_k OFF. That is why I was banned. I am trying to give the Harringtons my experience and ask them to focus on all possibilities. I ask them not to surround them selves with Astrologers, fortune tellers and yes men. It seems to me that there are many pieces of the puzzle missing. The first is who placed the t-shirt. I would think that information is key. It is highly likely that the person placing the t-shirt did not know that Morgan was dead at the time. If the person that placed it knew she was dead, it is highly likely that it was someone in law enforcement. Now, the billboard does not allow for people to be anonymous. The FBI would be the agency to go to. They do answer the phone. We tried the way the Harringtons did and it did not work. They have a platform to question JPJA, the College police department, and other agencies but are reluctant to do so. I want them to take the gloves of and come out swinging. Who, ever told Gil that Morgan was dressed provocatively needed to be removed. If that was the feeling in the department than justice was not being served. As far as innocent people knowing and reporting about the t-shirt, what would you do? If it was your child or love one, would you allow for them to come forward in this environment. I absolutely feel deeply for Gil, I only wish that she would speak her mind as to what law enforcement has or has not done. I would have to ask Dan what was up with the phone? Did it have a broken battery compartment or was Morgan known to take out the battery. They ask for help, do we help by walking on eggshells when we need answerers? They will not arrest the Doctor no matter what he says in an interview, he just does not realize it. They will not fire him or demote him, he just does not realize it. If he goes to the prime time news shows and tells them he is ready to take the gloves off, he will find support and just maybe some missing pieces.
Mr/Mrs Jones,
“Confidential” information LE doesn’t know but YOU do?
Maybe you got 5 messages about your not making sense.
But let me see if I comprendez. You are saying that the parents of this girl should come right out and openly question JPJA, University police and criticize VSP. Just have an all out and out war with the very people conducting this investigation? Wouldn’t it be smarter to hire a PI and gather the info, go to VSP,and say, “look, if these questions and issues we have aren’t resolved in a week, then we are exposing what we know.” (if there is anymore to know)
S Jones must have gotten banned from wherever it was because of long pointless rants. I can’t make any sense of any of them. If there is something there, then why not just come out and say it directly rather than in what reads like some sort of code?
“They will not arrest the Doctor no matter what he says in an interview, he just does not realize it.” What on earth is that supposed to mean?
Please, everyone just think about finding the person who committed this murder. All this circularity keeps attention away from the issue. A girl was murdered. Her murderer is at large. That murderer was in Charlottesville on Oct 17,2009. If you know anything about this, or suspect anyone, please report this to the tip line. Enough.
“The first is who placed the t-shirt. I would think that information is key. It is highly likely that the person placing the t-shirt did not know that Morgan was dead at the time. If the person that placed it knew she was dead, it is highly likely that it was someone in law enforcement.”
Why would law enforcement have the shirt? Why would someone place the t-shirt there unless it was the killer trying to confuse police? I don’t follow.
cat:
Your statement is an opinion and not backed up by Law Enforcement. That is a fact!
@S Jones: What the hell is the point of your rant? Call it whatever you want, but in Virginia all intentional deaths are presumed to be second degree murder, and from there it is either raised to 1st degree murder or reduced to manslaughter based on the evidence, or after a valid defense is raised. It’s being investigated as a homicide, and to most law enforcement, the term is interchangeable with murder. No one has any idea what point you’re trying to make by continuously arguing the semantics of it.
JJ Malloy
If there is a Jack the Ripper as mentioned by BB, it is possible that a person without law enforcement background could have planted the shirt. If that is the case why have the police not issued public safety warnings? A person in authority would be a logical suspect by any objective researcher. Someone with experience in forensics, local geography, history and knowledge of RSO’s that could by himself lead others on a wild chase. Generally speaking serial killers do not go back and place evidence weeks later, it could happen, but the serial killer would usually be caught.The vast majority of police officers are fine people, there are bad apples. Ask police officers, they know of cops on the take and abusing their authority. Seems much less of a stretch than a Jack the Ripper, but wasn’t one of the primary suspects a specialist in law enforcement. The FBI does not have loyalties to individual local police officers. If someone has information they should contact them. On another note, a dirty Cop can earn much more than 200,000 a year.
So basically someone got banned from findmorgan.com and is now confusing everyone here.
Had Morgan ever been arrested for anything?
I think Law Enforcement needs to be absolutely certain that Mr. Bass (the property owner) is not in fear for his and his familys life. That it’s very possible Mr. Bass came upon the killer by accident and is too afraid to come forward with this information.
That this could explain the strange comments he made early on regarding the impossibility of anyone being able access the area where Morgan’s body was found.
Bilfar June 11th, 2010 | 8:43 pm
“I think Law Enforcement needs to be absolutely certain that Mr. Bass (the property owner) is not in fear for his and his family’s life. That…”
Very good point, family is already being labeled by others. See what the word murder does. One thing if the Police say “Murder”, quite another when a term is used by fear mongers.
Courteney Stuart speaks to Geller, you can too! She will stand by the official statement and has yet to change. Try it, see if she uses “murder”. The land owner should be able to claim the reward, not that he would nor would anyone that is doing civic duty, but what is the price of loved ones being dragged through the mud? A lot more than 150,000. I think even innocent people with small bits of important information may fear for their and their family’s life.
nbc29fan June 11th, 2010 | 4:35 pm
Seems you have asked twice, it is a fair question. Not sure if there is anything to it. Maybe NBC29 can look into it? Hope I spelled this correctly. Not sure what is has to do with the billboard.
You people watch too much TV.
I still say you need to go back to the so called friends and question them thoroughly. There was a reason she had a bleeding chn and bump on her head and she was highly irritated while being in the smokinng area, What sent her to a smoking area bby herself and why was she upset as reported by witnesses. It doesn’t add up. They leave in her car and never call her parents to see if she arrived safey or even inform then she is missing. Alot of time was lost during that time and they are seen in a sight saying what a ” Great” time they had..after they learn she is missing. Someone in that circle of ” friends” needs to fess up with the truth.
The very idea they claim she was drunk is shady too. She was in fear and tried relentlessly to get back in and even staged to be with a stranger to send a message to the one she feared. Unfortunately, the man ignored her actions and decidd to call his girlfriend to say a “kook” was trying to acost him. Look into who was working security that night and could’ve slipped awy during the metallica concert and would have been able to slip back before it was over .. unnoticed. Her friend let her down that night and appears to have been ” users” instead of friends. The so called sighing of hitching hiking ect is to lead the attention from te perp/s in my opinion. Morgan was not drunk or spaced out on drugs as some are wanting us to believe. her actions shows she was seeking help and was in fear and very emotionally hurt. Her fiends know what went on that caused her bump on her head and bloody chin. It is time they start telling the truth. Why did they have her car keys and not go to give them to her if.. and that’s a bigh if.. she phoned them to say she was stuck ouside and not allowed back in. Her family deserve the truth and justice. The friends know more. To the Harringon Family.. I hope this will Board will jog memories of those who may have witnsessed something and bring their info forward. If anything.. Morgan was naieve and trusted the wrong people. JMO
JUSTICE FOR MORGAN June 12th, 2010 | 10:09 am
I agree that this is very very possible:
” … and even staged to be with a stranger to send a message to the one she feared. Unfortunately, the man ignored her actions and decidd to call his girlfriend to say a “kook” was trying to acost him. Look into who was working security that night and could’ve slipped awy during the metallica concert and would have been able to slip back before it was over .. ”
I have always believed that the man who was kicked was an attempt for Morgan to avoid another man. I also believe that her kicking to the air as she left that meeting was a mocking gesture. I think she was seeking the company of men to again avoid the man whom seemed to be following her.
Maybe a tip from people in the will-call area, ticket booth or part time security could clear this up. Would be nice if someone would call. Justice, I hope you jogged someone’s memory.
looping loonies
What does Courteney Stuart think about all of this, to this point? How about commenting.
I would like to see Courteney on CBS’s Sixty Minutes. Her record is remarkable. Maybe the Doctor should contact them, prime time on a network. Plenty of information for a story. It would be priceless to see a Sixty Minutes crew walk on that campus and into VSP offices. Courteney could take a walk with the interviewer to the arena and surrounding area.
S Jones, are you now saying Courtney Stuart is withholding information? What would she tell Sixty Minutes that she hasn’t written for the Hook already?
Why would the journalists from that show need to interview another journalist, a secondary source at best, rather than people who are primary sources? Isn’t the fact that they are competent and well respected (and presumably feared by the VSP) the reason you think a Sixty Minutes crew ought to pay the police a visit?
Also, why should Sixty Minutes take an interest in this story anyway other than for the fact that the victim was a relatively attractive white girl? Do you even remember the name of the black girl whose body was found near Lynchburg and whose death was only considered newsworthy because she wasn’t the pretty white girl? Where is the obsession with finding Cassandra Morton’s killer?
There were 16,000+ murders in the U.S. in 2009. IF Morgan Harrington were found to have been murdered in Charlottesville sometime before the end of last year, that would make her murder the single murder occurring here that year. Maybe what you’re suggesting is that Sixty Minutes ought to do a segment on how safe Charlottesville is compared to the rest of the world.
CC June 12th, 2010 | 7:37 pm
I have never even remotely suggested anything negative about Courteney. As to why would Sixty Minutes take an interest, it is easy. Read Courteney’s past stories about UVA, add them to this tragedy and there is room for a story. Add Hugley, that is a National story.
Courteney spoke with witnesses with respect to events at JPJA and was one of the first to explain that she had confirmed that the purse was found by a Lacrosse player. I also must say she has made refrences to this case and a murder. I do not agree with her on the use of the word, but she can do anything she sees fit. She is a responsible and ethical reporter. If Morgan was a minority and had attended Metallica, a purse being found by a Lacrosse player and UVA being involved, we would have the same public outcry.
Read her stories on the policies of UVA as it relates to rapes. She is not afraid to tangle with institutions and that makes her a worthy interview.
CC June 12th, 2010 | 7:37 pm
How dare you interject race. If Gil was a minority she would have probably been on Oprah on a network televised show.
@S Jones:
For the second time, what is the point of your playing semantics between murder and homicide? What difference does it make? Police don’t have homicide investigations for accidental deaths, because law enforcement doesnt use the same distinction that you use. So yes, it is a murder investigation, whether or not they are using that term.
I think a valid point has been raised, why all the national publicity about Morgan Harrington? Is it because she was a very pretty blond with well-to-do parents? From the little bit I’ve been able to read about Cassandra Morton, her life wasn’t quite as “tidy” for lack of a better word. Is that the reason for the lack of interest, she wasn’t worthy of much concern? Her remains were found in a very similar situation to Morgan’s discovery, in a remote area near a well known University, but how much do any of us really know or care about her? Maybe Lynchburg isn’t close enough to Charlottesville to generate much interest. Another young woman, Kristin Fox, was found near death within 15 minutes of Charlottesville at Zion Crossroads. She later died and her death was described as being suspicious. Has anyone read one update recently about her death. Ms. Fox didn’t have concerned parents to keep her death in the spotlight. According to a story appearing at the time of her death, as a teenager she was in the family home when her step-father killed her mother and then himself. A tragic life, and a tragic end to what could have been a promising young life. Do I sound hard-hearted about Morgan? I’m not. I can’t imagine the pain Dr. and Mrs. Harrington feel everyday, but there are far to many other families who feel this same pain. The difference, they don’t have the resources to be able to share that pain, thus their child, sister, mother is forgotten after just a few short lines in a local paper or on a website. If Morgan was indeed murdered, I want the person responsible brought to justice, just as I want the persons responsible for the deaths of Cassandra Morton and Kristin Fox (if her death was not an accidental overdose) brought to justice. I am still hoping that one day the killer of Alicia Showalter Reynolds will open his door to find a detective with handcuffs and gun drawn.
S Jones, I know you know Morgan’s mother’s name. What’s Cassandra Morton’s mother’s name? Did you find it out on Oprah? How dare you attempt to cover up the role that race plays in that?
“Do you want the truth, really? Yea, I am harsh ! Do you want little yes men that culy up next to you and tell you what you want hear? Or it is possible that you may want to find the truth no matter waht it is?” - S Jones June 7th, 2010 | 5:21 am
By the way, I like Courtney Stuart’s writing, but the country is filed with reporters. They write articles. A lot of them are ” responsible and ethical.” It’s hardly national news that Charlottesville has responsible and ethical news reporters writing articles (although Courtney is cuter than most, which may be news of a sort).
I believe that the words Metallica and Virgina Tech are the what drives the attention. Is it a good thing that it takes these words to draw attention a tragic incident? I wish it did not. The billboard mentions neither directly. 70 percent of people over the age of 16 probably know the name Metallica. Most people I speak to will say oh, the Metallica girl. Most Americans remember Virgina Tech the same as they do Columbine. This is not fair, but it does draw on emotion. When you add that she was a student, it is an eye opener. I understand that many think that race plays a role in the coverage by the press. Often it does and I fell for the trap with my Oprah statement. I am sorry I even answered the race question. I do not think that race played any role in her death. I can only hope that Morgan’s case shines attention on the other missing and dead people in Virgina. All parents and siblings need support and awareness. Virgina is not alone nor over represented in comparisons to other states. Many people find the system in place in Virgina has short comings. All states have short comings. It is sad, but even our exchanges keep the word out and hopefully cases from going cold. I wish the world was a better place! To do nothing is not an answer,I wish I had the answer. I will keep looking!
Oh, one additional blame I want to place. I fault we the public who seem to be insatiable for news about Morgan’s death, but give the impression of not giving a hoot about how these other young women and others, both male and female, came to end-up dead and thrown away like a piece of debris, or simply disappeared, never to be seen again.
My above comment was preceded by a post that does not yet appear. Perhaps my server timed-out. In that post I said that I don’t think the lack of coverage of the deaths of Cassandra Morton and Kristin Fox is racial. After all, one was black, the other white. I think it has more to do with the media only catering to what the public wants to read and forgetting that there are others who have similar stories as Morgan, but these people remain largely forgotten. I also fault law enforcement. We all moan and groan about a lack of information about Morgan. Has a meticulous time line been released leading up to the deaths of Cassandra or Kristin? What about the 40+ year old professor from Sweetbriar who disappeared a few months ago. She was thought to be a possible suicide, but I have seen nothing in the news about whether she was found, alive, dead or is still missing.
If my previous post does appear, I apologize for taking up additional space.
S.Jones,
I think you are sincere and I agree with much of your direction. There are many missing pieces to this puzzle. If the Harringtons, LE and the friends are not forthright with the information, there is not much of a chance that we, the general public will ever be able to help solve them. I can only hope that LE has the information they need for Dr. and Gil and Alex to finally put closure to this horrible loss.
The Harringtons were encouraged to hire a PI, but for whatever reason they declined to. There was one who was following the case very closely and put a lot of personal effort and time into making headway on the case, but then who became disgusted with the whole affair and dropped out of sight. From what I understand he primarily wanted offical involvement on the case primarily for his own legal protection.
The fact that the Harringtons would hire a publicist versus a PI at least to me speaks VOLUMES. I think there is a lot more beneath the surface of this case then what the general public is aware of.
Steve June 15th, 2010 | 1:01 am
You are so correct!
The Doctor just released some information. It clears up somethings for many as to events on the drive to and from JPJA. This will help others with their theories and allow them to focus on other things. The Doctor is reading and I would like to ask about the cell phone, if there was a history of the battery coming out or of Morgan intentional taking the battery out. The reason is that if there is no history of either it would point to the high possibility that some one else took the battery out. I do not believe that this information would jeopardize any investigation. Perhaps the Doctor assumes we know the answer or does not understand why I am asking. I have never believed the Doctor has misrepresented himself, I believe he just does not see how little bits will keep the story going. I want to help, hundreds want to help. Let us help, please.
GIL HARRINGTON’S WRITING FROM FINDMORGAN.COM
Evil does exist and life can be savage at times. Despite that, I know love will persist and goodness continues. I hold fast to this truth as I stumble in sadness and fear, knowing my sight will acclimate to the darkness soon and I’ll learn to navigate this shadow land with ease.
I wish I could hurry the process along. I yearn for ease and a lightening of our burden. But grief has its own clock and doesn’t seem to care about my time frame at all. I believe healing could occur more readily if I got out of the way and allowed it to unfold.
My knee jerk is to meet a problem with strength, shoulder it, attack it, wrestle it, oppose it. Regrettably, there’s no dominating Death or her sister Grief. I want to be a force for good, but realize that force is impotent here. To process Morgan’s death in a healthy way I must develop a whole new survival skill set based on submission and surrender. Dan will confirm that those attributes are pretty foreign to my character.
Am being forced to change and grow and yield? I hope my pigheaded resistance will be short lived and I learn to stop throwing myself against the rock and instead flow around it. Intellectually, I understand, but my anguished heart still can’t stop screaming WHY?
My little Mogo, 241
“The evil that men do lives after them,
The good is oft interred with their bones”
We WILL not let Morgan’s memory die,nor will we permit this murderer’s evil to further rend this or other families. Some good will come from this, no further destruction, a limit to pain. Stop this person from killing again. Morgan’s ashes cry out for resolution. Her bones and ashes remain above ground waiting for justice.
S Jones, do you really think people believe you want to help? That is a joke. You were kicked off of FM because of your late night ramblings and attacks of blink and other posters. You were threatening to the admins. You are a looney goon.
Peace.
Concerning images from JPJA please visit.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/help-find-morgan
Please sign if you agree with petition. remember to do nothing is never going to help.
How is it even possible to agree with something that says: “If you insist there is no video, please allow the public a chance to view it?” You might as well demand they show you Santa Claus. Leave the investigation to the professionals.
CC
If the professionals had been left alone, very little would have been done on this case. The University of Virginia has tried repeatedly to literally bury the facts. There have been extremely uncooperative with sharing information with the the police, the FBI, and the family. The only reason that the professionals are still working on this case at any intensity, is because the Harringtons continue to press for answers. Furthermore, there is a very strong probability that JPJ people erased tapes immediately following Morgan’s disappearance. Looking at all the tapes can show where the erased gaps are. JPJ has from the beginning of this looked at this only as potential liability and has been involved in heavy duty CYA–just like Casteen did.
The Bonemaker
Bones and rags in a field
That’s what we have come to
The bonemaker did this
He took a living breathing person and made bones
And rags
No breath, no life, no future, no love
And he is out there
Ready to make new bones
In a new field
lovely, please submit that to my webiste
http://www.verybadpoetry.com/
guess what gorgoroth I ‘ve got a million more of “em. Never said I was any kind of a poet I am a family member trying to chivy a community that is sheltering a murderer to come forward with his name. When the people who are protecting Morgan Harrington’s murderer give him up so that he can be tried —then all of this stuff will stop. Meanwhile, writing truly excerable poetry makes me feel a bit better. And obviously making fun of people who have lost family members to murder makes you feel better. I think we are at least even. Deal with it. Note that you have expressed not one iota of compassion or even interest about the subject matter —-the murdered girl. And you are proud of that???
S Jones is a loony goon? Maybe, maybe not. Truth is, that what I saw of findmorgan.com was one loony goon posting after another. They’re trying to turn MH into some sort of Martyr or saint which is likely far from the truth.
Do I think she deserved what happened to her? No…but bad things happen every day, and often to people that were acting more responsible then Morgan Harrington.
As I stated before, her parents hiring a publicist instead of a PI solely focused on unwravelling the mystery speaks volumes. From what I understand, LE didnt really get anywhere on the case and even “blew off” pretty plausible sightings… which that PI followed up on.
I’m sure that the publicist has some sort of crystal ball or reads t-leaves which will solve the mystery.
If you write original poems in the comment section a web article, the reactions are probably going to be negative even if you are a Yeats or Dickenson in the making.
“a community that is sheltering a murderer”
So you do bad comedy too?
It seems that some small progress is being made from the time this article was posted. That is all anyone can ask for. I personal believe in casting a wide net as opposed to fishing with a pole. I am open to anything that will help raise awareness of all victims and that hopefully keeps others from becoming victims. I have multiply theories and actually the lady mentioned by another and I agree on very many things, we always did. The videos and time-line together could possibly eliminate so many people with an alibi. Pictures of what Morgan was wearing that night could help someone to remember. It is not about who’s theory is right or wrong. What is important is that we continue to look for the truth. Like it or not Morgan is now a public figure. So, live with it. Her frame of mind is surely to be considered. I strongly believe that the person that displayed the t-shirt is one that can lead us all to the next step. Would the press and Family please understand that person probably did not Morgan was dead at the time of the display. She [or He} would probably come forward if the public has not already convicted her in the eye of public opinion. I believe she is neither an accessory before the fact and with an offer from the District Attorney would not be prosecuted for any crime.
Reach out!
Much has been made about criminal profilers. There is the premeir agency in the US, FBI. Scotland Yard and Interpol have similar programs. Some Universities in the Western World have advanced classes. Even the best are only only a tool, so here it goes. I am not a profiler. It has a lower percentage other a hitter in professional baseball and lower than a goalie in the World Cup against a free penalty kick. I usually refrain from sports analogies, but what I am about to write is my opinion after consulting with one as a hypothetical question. If it was a murder the profile would be someone in law enforcement. Either past, present, studding to be or with a military, jurisdiction over private lands and / or an extreme reader of books and desire to simply cover up this one crime.
To Several people posting on this thread regarding the billboard. Steve and Justice are two that listen to with great respect. others are also welcome, but these two seem to be looking for answers that encompasses the over all meaning of what I see as relevant to the article. I know this will be the 3rd post in a row. I hope you can take it as an independent post and read through any grammar mistakes. Find Morgan is a great site. BOC is good as long as you understand that the Editor is a very good Lady and is focused on many crimes. First is to Find Morgan, the site by the Doctor who posted the billboard. The site has some great contributers, one has recently stated that he wants to become a member of the FBI. He would be the greatest asset to that agency in my opinion. On Find Morgan you find two moderators that ware so pro law Enforcement that that they rarely allow anything to printed that in their opinion questions the police. Constant personal references to Joe Radar and the brown nosing is detrimental to any objective questions. They took issue with me. They will flock to any any statement and attack with personal messages. When I respond, they take their ball and send me home. We have all seen that behavior. As to the female moderator she will argue as you are equal and then play the “I am a Lady, how dare you card. She runs to the male and ask for that subservient justice. As to Blink, she is as smart as anyone, she has to juggle many things to keep her calling going. She is a good lady and as long as you understand that we can move on. There are posters on both of these sites that are employed by UVA. They have a vested interested in playing down the role of the institution. One even claims to has been employed by various law enforcement agencies as well as UVA. Seems like she is on the clock while reading and even posting. that was pointed out months earlier. I have no allegiance to anyone but the the truth is what I am after. I posted on THE HOOK long before I went to Find Morgan. The truth is that a Newspaper allows all of us to speak freely. I except all of the criticism and I do listen. The billboard, Corteneny;s article and these discussions are as American as it gets. It is surely one of the best things that our Country has. Now, no matter if you believe in a Church, Astrology, conspiracies, a Mother’s intuition, are a supporter of law Enforcement, a hater or lover of Music can we all agree that something very very bad happened. It happened to Morgan and many other victims of all races and gender. Can we please try to find the truth. Will Find Morgan open the discussion that it is possible that a single member of Law Enforcement MAY BE conceivable. The minds on that site are extraordinary, remove the blinds. Blink is allowing it. There are other sites, blabbermouth, Metallica, Newsplex and countless others. Keep the questions and search alive. Please. We may help other families to find some answerers. Many siblings an, Parents, Children and loved ones need answers. This is the one that we still have chance for, the time is still available, it is not cold.
Oh my GOD from Blink and Find Morgan:
Police to report that the woman, identified as Laura J. Pepe, was reported missing Tuesday. Police say while at the concert, the woman got separated from her friends.
This was reporyrd today. Courteney please advise.
In Virgina at a concert is this a bad dream?
No comment just read this:
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_n…-missing-phish
ecstasy
ecstasy
ecstasy
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/portsmouth/25-arrested-at-phish-concert-by-abc
From Wavy.com
PORTSMOUTH, Va. (WAVY) - Twenty-five people were arrested Tuesday night by ABC agents at the Phish concert at Portsmouth’s nTelos Pavilion for illegal drugs and underage drinking, among other charges.
Alcoholic Beverage Control agents seized marijuana and ecstasy from people attending the concert. One person was arrested and charged with felony distribution of marijuana and felony possession of a controlled substance with intent to distribute.
“The purpose of these types of operations is to provide enhanced public safety for the area in and around the venue,” said Frank Monahan, director of the ABC Bureau of Law Enforcement.
Other arrests were made for selling alcoholic beverages without a license, according to the ABC.
From a Phish concert?
I’ve been to a few Phish concerts in my day. The drug use there is high but most of hte people seemed pretty harmless.
As with any band that attracts a cult following of hippies, there will be some sketchy and evil hanger ons who take advantage of the naivete, generosity, and (often) intoxication of the fans.
Hopefully this girl turns out to be okay.
gogoroth No I unfortunately dont have the inclination for comedy good or bad at this time.. I am trying to deal with a family whose daughter had been murdered. It is extremely interesting that you find this murder amusing and a suitable subject for scorn, and again have no interest in finding the girl’s murderer. Again, this all goes away when the murderer is arrested and charged. And again, yes someone in Cville is protecting him.
JJMolloy IWhatever I posted sure wasnt poetry I think of itas written venting. Wasnt objecting to the critisism, I object to the lack of any compassion about the situation. This whole blog is about trying to find a murderer.
This guy has done this before and guess what he will do it again–probably in Charlottesville– or at least in Virginia.
The woman missing from the Phish concert, Laura Pepe, has been found alive. http://bit.ly/c6boAW –Courteney Stuart
Thank You and Thank God!
Initially I took a strong interest in the MH disappearance, but I too got very tired of the soap opera and unrealistic rantings taking place on the findmorgan.com website. A few of the best contributors on there had a more realistic view of what truly went down, and were harassed, and ridiculed as a result.
As for Blink, she is nothing but a sensationalist type “National Inquirer” type journalist. Anything worthwhile she has is obtained by those “in the know” who are nieve enough to share it with her. One week she was implying one person was responsible for the crime, and the next week that was all forgotten and someone else was on her bs “hinky meter.” If anyone is hinky, it’s blink.
I’ve pretty much gotten tired of hearing all the drivel regarding MH and don’t follow the story anymore. I agree that a PI would of made a hell of a lot more sense then a publicist. The approach of the family has made very little sense since the get go.
Who, or what, is Blink?
To JJ: “Blink” fancies herself to be a journalist cum investigative reporter cum crimesolver. Her website is blinkoncrime.com and covers national crime stories (Caylee Anthony, Misty Croslin, etc., etc.) I visited the site during the first months of Morgan’s disappearance and must agree with Sharon’s comments. Blink does imply that she has “insider” knowledge which she reveals only in “coded” messages or innuendoes which contradict each other over time. Most of the posters are well-intentioned, but some of them apparently live on the site and move from case to case. Many of the “comments” are personal messages to each other kivetching about their problems, issues, wine consumption, ad nauseum. I found it an enormous waste of my time, but each to his own.
Steve, can you provide a source link stating that the Harrington’s hired a publicist? And another one stating they don’t have a PI?
And are you talking about that “PI” that spent all of his time begging for work on FB and Find Morgan? The same guy who got so angry when the Harrington’s didn’t hire him he posted pictures of the family. Yeah. Real successful. I would invest a ton of money in that guy.
Thanks for the laughs Steve.
First of all, I respect first and foremost anyone who has the decency within them to reach out to the Harringtons and wants to help them find who did this to their daughter. I have a deep respect for those on findmorgan.com, blink (though I also do not agree with her tactics), Newsplex, the Hook, and ANY source that is willing to reach out and help them, right down to VSP and any resources they are willing and able to utilize. I refuse to be on here bashing anyone, it is not productive at all. And what I wouldn’t give to have the opportunity to speak with Courteney, there would be quite a few things, many of which have everything to do with this board, cleared up. People should probably pay attention to those that tend to wear their hearts on their sleeves at times. Peace SJ.
Here’s things they need:
1. The Coroner’s cause of death.
2. The surveillance video from JPJ.
3. Private investigators.
4. Possible ties to parents work or organized crime.
Hello, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
From what I remember there wasn’t any “begging” on the part of the PI.
I also dont remember him becoming angry. I do remember him saying something about the case going no where and a lack of worthwhile information being released. I also remember him taking several sightings seriously that LE had dropped the ball on.
Not sure why he disappeared. Maybe he got tired of people such as yourself with plenty of opinion but not enough information to go with it.